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Gunnerman21 wrote:Mojand deleted everyone's skins and replace them all with villager skins. Actually not sure if it was just people with the latest update, or serverwide-literally-everybody. Now we have to go hunt down where ever the hell we saved our skins in our computers and replace them. April f*cking fools everybody :(

they just changed it during april fools, and they changed it back now

Gunnerman has received a rule #1 warning for spreading vicious rumors without verifying his facts. Let's move on.

1.7.6 is coming Being able to change name is kinda nice, but...
I would hate to be a server owner reading this one, so much needed to prepare and change.

would have to wait for:
bukkit update > plugins update to new system > someone creates a script/plugin to convert user lists to new system(most likely will need to be done per mod)
It's going to be a long time before servers are running 1.7.6 +
waiting a few months for everything to catch up is best case scenario, there's so much that could go wrong. This is going to be a massive kick in the balls for large server owners handling ranks, donations, logging/protection etc. competing to update (because old version of game is frowned upon for some reason).

The Minecraft login servers were temporarily down yesterday due to the Heartbleed OpenSSL exploit. As a result, they're dropping support for the old launcher (which I still use for BTW...)

Sources:
https://twitter.com/notch/status/453516309851291648
https://twitter.com/KrisJelbring/status ... 1028613121
https://twitter.com/KrisJelbring/status ... 7490753536

I think slimeblocks might be a bit buggy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3mrZ_5yWCk

EDIT: it's weird. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIypKyQzHII

Huh, that's actually pretty cool.

Hm. Slime blocks will be *very* fun to play with. Still, it has very little impact on actual survival play, and, if Eloraam's frames are any indication, took a TON of time to get working.

Feature overview by the guys that created it:

http://youtu.be/jpXBKXJlybg

Admittedly, pretty darn cool :)

I find it unfortunate it's associated with such a butt-ugly block though. Is going to make redstone contraptions look pretty shitty.

FlowerChild wrote:Feature overview by the guys that created it:

http://youtu.be/jpXBKXJlybg

Admittedly, pretty darn cool :)

I find it unfortunate it's associated with such a butt-ugly block though. Is going to make redstone contraptions look pretty shitty.

Oh god, it didn't even occur to me that you could make self-propelled vehicles with these.

BinoAl wrote: Oh god, it didn't even occur to me that you could make self-propelled vehicles with these.

Yeah, from watching a few vids, it's a crazy powerful block, and I'm sure we haven't seen half the uses that people will come up with for it now that it's been released in the wild.

I'll be watching what happens closely, my eyes aching the whole time from the onslaught of lime green :)

I also think that Mojang may have not fully thought this through when they integrated it. For example, awhile ago they tried to stamp out BUDs, and here they just facilitated a 3-block one :)

Wow. An actually interesting feature comes out of Mojang. Oh right. Actually they just took it from someone else. But cool nonetheless.

Sarudak wrote:Wow. An actually interesting feature comes out of Mojang. Oh right. Actually they just took it from someone else. But cool nonetheless.

Hehe...yeah, it sounds like they just grabbed the code outright this time :)

There's a lot of amusing little details in this too. Like, as far as I know, Notch chose not to include the "pinball" mechanic in pistons when they were first added to the game. Fast forward a couple of years, and that gets stealth inserted with the slime blocks, his original reasons for doing so apparently cast aside or forgotten by the new team members.

It's very cool, but my spider sense is tingling on this one with regards to the implications.

Pinball mechanic?

Just wait. I'm fairly certain that ridiculousness will ensue, because they didn't factor in the nut people playing minecraft that are willing to find every little bit of slip up they made while coding this feature in and then make videos about it :P

Self propeled BUD powered vehicles are amusing, but so far not practical for anything. But someone will 100% find a use for them. I only hope it's not something game breaking, because sticky slime blocks are a very interesting feature.

Also I'm almost certain that they will be a buggy mess. I wonder how I got that idea :P

Here's to hoping!

my spider sense is tingling

You mean your common sense?

Sarudak wrote:Pinball mechanic?

The original piston mod the vanilla concept was based on had the ability to launch players and other entities. This resulted in a whole bunch of cool builds resembling pinball machines that would send the player flying around through a huge contraption.

This version only seems to launch vertically though (could be wrong there, but that's how it looks), whereas the original one was capable of launching horizontally as well.

MoRmEnGiL wrote: Also I'm almost certain that they will be a buggy mess. I wonder how I got that idea :P

Yeah, that's my sense as well. They haven't even sorted all the bugs on pistons yet, never mind all the fringe cases this is bound to introduce.

Sad part is I think it's a bit less likely to be a buggy mess than usual because it was community coded. If Mojang coded it I'd be almost certain it would be a bug fest, but as it is I at least acknowledge a small possibility it might not be :P

FlowerChild wrote: The original piston mod the vanilla concept was based on had the ability to launch players and other entities. This resulted in a whole bunch of cool builds resembling pinball machines that would send the player flying around through a huge contraption.

This version only seems to launch vertically though (could be wrong there, but that's how it looks), whereas the original one was capable of launching horizontally as well.

Ah I remember my brother using that with the original piston mod and sand to make a disappearing stairway in the desert.

Sarudak wrote:Ah I remember my brother using that with the original piston mod and sand to make a disappearing stairway in the desert.

Yeah, I remember a lot of cool stuff being built with that, like "wave machines" with sand blocks. Wonder if you can launch sand and gravel with these slime blocks.

If you can time it right, you can launch sand into the air (only as an entity). It works with all gravity influenced blocks (anvils included), though you can only launch it once before it turns back into a block.

It is actually making me wish Hippo was still keeping his patch updated.

Yes you can

TimoMeijer wrote:Yes you can

Well, yes and no. The sand part relies on a bug, and really doesn't look as good as the original.

Minecarts looked pretty cool though.

On the rest of the modding community front here's a long chatlog with a modder and Grum
Part 1. http://pastebin.com/g1EGkGxb
Part 2. http://pastebin.com/79nrvhwL

kinda long but some of it says a lot about the current state of minecraft and some of the inner workings of mojang.

things i took notice of...
Apparently there is nothing wrong with the new launcher, being user friendly is not something that really matters.

ever had the feeling that additions to minecraft have been random 'lunch break' things instead of thought out ideas --> Confirmed!

According to grum all modders are lazy and updating is really easy, on top of that if forge is such a problem more users should be working on it(obviously with their extensive knowledge, desire and copious amounts of spare time)

and an overall a general lack of understanding of the modding community...

There is a lot of shit going on at the moment, a lot of extra drama coupled with the spiralling disastertastrophe that's been going on for a while. i often though "damn i would like to use BTW with x mod" but overall the distancing from all that crap was a good idea...

Seems like my sub-box is completely filled with slimeblock contraption videos. hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bZxofsweRY

In the second part of their conversation Grum sais they will drop multiplayer support for older version in the future. Meaning people won't be able to log in on the servers. This would kill multiplayer btw :(

Fret wrote:In the second part of their conversation Grum sais they will drop multiplayer support for older version in the future. Meaning people won't be able to log in on the servers. This would kill multiplayer btw :(

Well I think that the 'online-mode' option in the server.properties file would allow connecting to an unsupported server, so have no fear for the multiplayer of BTW ^^

There' no point freaking out about hypotheticals guys. As has been amply illustrated by the mythical mod API, there's a big difference between Mojang saying they're going to do something, and if/when it actually happens.

If something potentially happens down the road that breaks BTW multiplayer, we can cross that bridge when we get to it.

Keep in mind that Mojang has been able to shut down BTW outright throughout its development with a single email. It's just the nature of the modding beast and of being dependent on a third party like this.