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Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:56 am
by wolfe
This is more of a fix for a vanilla bug than a suggestion, but it kinda bothers me that mojang hasn't noticed it yet. First off, ore dropping XP just doesn't sound like a good idea in the first place. Now what makes this even more annoying is that the player doesn't even have to be the one to break the ore to get the XP. Creepers and TNT will make ore drop XP, which means players can get the experience without having to get a pickaxe to mine the resource.

In short, do you think you could fix this in the next BTW update?

Re: Ore drops XP when a creeper bombs it? Seems legit.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:00 am
by morvelaira
Firstly, I think this suggestion is premature - Until we have a 1.3 compatible version of BTW, we don't know what tweaks and changes FlowerChild will make to the code.

Second of all, have you tested this theory at all? I have not heard of this phenomenon anywhere else, and it would be inconsistent with the way Mojang awards experience for killing mobs.

Thirdly, /especially/ in the suggestions forum - meaningful thread titles please.

Re: Ore drops XP when a creeper bombs it? Seems legit.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:03 am
by wolfe
This bug has been around since the weekly snapshots. I was worried somebody already suggested it.

Yes, several times. It works for all ores that drop items.

There, changed the title.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:12 am
by FlowerChild
If I don't remove it entirely, it dropping when mobs destroy it is actually more consistent with the background justification I have for why it's happening to begin with.

Secondly, I can't see this being significant enough to be relevant to anything at all.

And yes, as Morv said...this is premature.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:29 am
by morvelaira
It's especially premature if Mojang has recognized it as a bug as you said before. FlowerChild certainly has corrected some of Mojang's bugs in the past, but only when they've made it abundantly clear they're either unwilling or incapable of fixing them on their own for quite some time. If it's a bug, and it's not /majorly/ affecting anything, don't worry about it.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:16 pm
by NoviceAdventurer
morvelaira wrote:It's especially premature if Mojang has recognized it as a bug as you said before. FlowerChild certainly has corrected some of Mojang's bugs in the past, but only when they've made it abundantly clear they're either unwilling or incapable of fixing them on their own for quite some time. If it's a bug, and it's not /majorly/ affecting anything, don't worry about it.
Exploit it >:D
Tnt exp farm anyone?

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:31 pm
by FlowerChild
NoviceAdventurer wrote: Exploit it >:D
Tnt exp farm anyone?
Considering the big red hand imprint on my forehead right now, I suspected your days on these forums were numbered.

Then I looked through your post history and noticed you admitting to software piracy in your introductory post, and decided they were over.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:16 pm
by Last_Jedi_Standing
FlowerChild wrote:
NoviceAdventurer wrote: Exploit it >:D
Tnt exp farm anyone?
Considering the big red hand imprint on my forehead right now, I suspected your days on these forums were numbered.

Then I looked through your post history and noticed you admitting to software piracy in your introductory post, and decided they were over.
It would be interesting to look through the list of the forum's members and see what percentage have been banned.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:18 pm
by Ulfengaard
The ones with approximately six posts and approximately named 'nothereforlong' would through the statistical curve.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:42 pm
by FlowerChild
Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:It would be interesting to look through the list of the forum's members and see what percentage have been banned.
As many as is necessary to preserve the level of conversation, and allow the forums to serve a useful purpose.

Otherwise, it would just be the MCF thread :)

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:49 pm
by Ethinolicbob
*shudder*
Perish the thought

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:59 pm
by TheFlame52
Ulfengaard wrote:The ones with approximately six posts and approximately named 'nothereforlong' would through the statistical curve.
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaaaaaa....... It's funny because he was really dumb. *wipes tear from eye*

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:44 pm
by fearofshorts
On topic with the suggestion-
FC you might need to make a decision about whether or not you like this- mining charges might need to be modified so that they do or don't cause XP drops.
I don't want to be presumptuous or make a big deal out of an overly simple issue, and I especially don't want to cause a chain of "make sure this works" posts, but the thread was already here with a sizable discussion about the issue.

No need for anyone to respond to this to debate anything- I think this issue is probably small enough for FC to make up his mind without our assistance. I just wanted to post a (hopefully) helpful reminder of a special case that might not have been considered.

Re: Ores dropping experience when destroyed by a mob.

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:46 pm
by FlowerChild
Guys, I've got issues to resolve with the mod coming out of my ass right now.

Please don't overwhelm me with incredibly trivial and irrelevant details. These things will naturally get resolved with time, and you're in no way helping by pointing them out right now.