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Panda wrote:I do wonder what jeb meant about eliminating non renewable resources? The only none renewable ones are end stone, end portals and dragon eggs...?
He meant non-renewable in a practical sense, as in resources it is technically possible to completely exhaust within an area.
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ugh. A little exploring on the internet reveals...
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destineternel wrote:ugh. A little exploring on the internet reveals...
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I don't see why that's ugh-worthy, I'm glad he's thought of that.
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Okay people, I think we're all getting a bit too concerned about the golden apple issue. I certainly agree that trading is going to bring major balance issues, but the golden apple change seems to me as really irrelevant thing (though I do think it's bad that more development time was wasted in this useless addition). No matter what type of effect the apple might have, even if it was the ability to fly, like some people suggested, I most certainly would NOT use 72 gold ingots to get some temporary effect. Golden apples have always been an adventure map type of item anyway, and I think it will and should remain that way.
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TheThievingMonkey wrote:(...) Golden apples have always been an adventure map type of item anyway, and I think it will and should remain that way.
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except, added to the way Jeb tends to design the game, this already mentionned clue :
SewingPin : also, farewell, non-renewable resources?
jeb_ : Hope so!
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TheThievingMonkey wrote:Okay people, I think we're all getting a bit too concerned about the golden apple issue. I certainly agree that trading is going to bring major balance issues, but the golden apple change seems to me as really irrelevant thing (though I do think it's bad that more development time was wasted in this useless addition). No matter what type of effect the apple might have, even if it was the ability to fly, like some people suggested, I most certainly would NOT use 72 gold ingots to get some temporary effect. Golden apples have always been an adventure map type of item anyway, and I think it will and should remain that way.
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Exactly, 8 gold blocks is a ridiculous price to pay for ANY temporary effect. You could build a whole rail network with that gold! I'm really no too concerned with this change at all when you compare it to the potential destructive impact of villager trading.
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Sarudak wrote:Exactly, 8 gold blocks is a ridiculous price to pay for ANY temporary effect. You could build a whole rail network with that gold! I'm really no too concerned with this change at all when you compare it to the potential destructive impact of villager trading.
what if you then combine both potentials ?
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I haven't meddled with any of the updates beyond enchanting and I intend to keep it that way. I they don't do this right it could be a real game-breaker.
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Catox wrote: except, added to the way Jeb tends to design the game, this already mentionned clue :
SewingPin : also, farewell, non-renewable resources?
jeb_ : Hope so!
Yeah, but that's a problem with trading, not with the golden apples. To be fair, I am quite worried that this new effect will be so much greater than any other thing you can find currently in the game, while still not being worth the ridiculous price, that a lot of immature players will start to bug jeb to make the apples more avaible in survival. Jeb will probably then proceed to cater to their every whim, creating the perfect overpowered item. There's certainly a great deal of stuff that could be added to the game for the more advanced players, but when you jump straight from diamond tools, enchanting and potion making to something like a golden apple you leave this gigantic gap that is bound to make impatient players whyne endlessly.
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Well, we'll see on Thursday... *hunkers in bunker*
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You're all still overreacting methinks :P
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I've got no problem slaughtering testificates to rebalance the game myself >:)
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agentwiggles wrote:I've got no problem slaughtering testificates to rebalance the game myself >:)
+1

Seriously though, I feel we should wait a bit before going all out and Jeb bashing. Granted, if it turns out to be as shallow as it looks, we'll have a serious problem. Until then, I'm going to hold off on that front.
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BURN JEB NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!
The great randomo wrote:Seriously though, I feel we should wait a bit before going all out and Jeb bashing. Granted, if it turns out to be as shallow as it looks, we'll have a serious problem. Until then, I'm going to hold off on that front.
Yeah, I suppose your right, we should at least have a good go with it before jumping to conclusions.
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http://twitter.com/jeb_/statuses/205307552941088768
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Given that the only other change to come out of a suggestion on /r/minecraft (that I'm aware of) was the pig's snout, and given the very low quality of suggestions there, I'll lean on "concerned" for now. I had a look through a list of potential additions, of which the ender chest seems the most consistent with recent changes.
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Dextralus wrote:of which the ender chest seems the most consistent with recent changes.
Really? Ender chests in vanilla?

I like the Ender Storage mod, but it'd be waaaaay OP in vanilla.
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Of course it would be, but this is the kind of "convenient" addition (that in actuality grants a lot of power to the player) that Jeb seems to favour. What's more, that was the most well-received of the candidate blocks. Lazers hardly had a purchase by comparison. Though, this is assuming that "useful" means something other than "useful for aesthetic reasons", which I think is probably fair but also something to keep in mind...
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Well, now we may be jumping to conclusions :)

At least that's what I'm telling myself, with fingers, toes, and testicles crossed.
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FlowerChild wrote:At least that's what I'm telling myself, with fingers, toes, and testicles crossed.
The Trifecta ! :')
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FlowerChild wrote: At least that's what I'm telling myself, with fingers, toes, and testicles crossed.
Except in bed...?
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FlowerChild wrote:Well, now we may be jumping to conclusions :)

At least that's what I'm telling myself, with fingers, toes, and testicles crossed.
That's called testicular torsion and you probably should get that looked at...
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Sarudak wrote: That's called testicular torsion and you probably should get that looked at...
Don't worry, I have plenty of people looking at it as part of my stage-show.
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FlowerChild wrote: Don't worry, I have plenty of people looking at it as part of my stage-show.
Well... I didn't know that money was that tight... In any case as long as at least one of them is a licensed medical professional you should be alright.
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Sarudak wrote:
FlowerChild wrote: Don't worry, I have plenty of people looking at it as part of my stage-show.
Well... I didn't know that money was that tight... In any case as long as at least one of them is a licensed medical professional you should be alright.
Who says he does that for money ? I'm sure he volunteers ^^

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