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Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:27 am
by RaustBlackDragon
Know what's interesting? Of the scrolls people have reported so far, none of them are for tool enchantments.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:29 am
by Foxy Boxes
Interesting. A refined sword will display all five slots (with smite at least) in intervals of 10, BUT just cannot enchant the last slot (with a standard amout of shelves for normal enchanting). (At level 143, so it's not that either.)

EDIT: disregard, not the same number of shelves as thought, damn creeper

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:37 am
by Ceunon
RaustBlackDragon wrote:Know what's interesting? Of the scrolls people have reported so far, none of them are for tool enchantments.
Maybe we're supposed to acquire them through different ways? Like...Heck, Idk, mining?

Has anyone actually tested it?

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:51 am
by The great randomo
Has anyone tried placing multiple rows of bookshelves?

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:05 pm
by Foxy Boxes
Soul-Forged Steel works best, with gold coming second. I haven't tried all the others but iron barely enchants. The costs are also higher the less enchantable.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:13 pm
by Mason11987

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:43 pm
by Ferrus.Manus
Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:46 pm
by Kezza
ghasts drop "flame", it is for the flamebow enchant
villagers drop "looting"

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:57 pm
by Marasambala
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.

Cool! So you actually have to build a library, with rows, and not just a solid mass of bookshelves.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:00 pm
by Gormador
Marasambala wrote:
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.

Cool! So you actually have to build a library, with rows, and not just a solid mass of bookshelves.
Or use one in a stronghold :-)

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:39 pm
by Foxy Boxes
Gormador wrote:
Marasambala wrote:
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.

Cool! So you actually have to build a library, with rows, and not just a solid mass of bookshelves.
Or use one in a stronghold :-)
Odd. Do you mean enchantment level or the cost level?

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:42 pm
by Haidaes
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.
Is the requirement of 17x17x17 spherical or cubical ? It would be kinda awsome if you could build a round libary with the IE (somehow that abreviation scares me) in the center :) What do you mean with one side open to air, though?

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:45 pm
by Itamarcu
Haidaes wrote:What do you mean with one side open to air, though?
It means you can't just make a big block of bookcases. Every bookcase must have one side visible (and it must be a book-shelf side), like the original Stronghold library.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:48 pm
by Heilkaiba
Haidaes wrote:
Ferrus.Manus wrote:Just finished testing the Bookshelf requirements.
You need exactly 1 bookshelf per level (so lvl40 enchantment - 40 bookshelves, lvl60 - 60 bookshelves, lvl100 - 100 bookshelves).
IE detects books in 17x17x17 block area. The exact shape the bookshelves are placed doesn't matter, but they seem to need at least one side horizontally (so sides, not top or bottom) open to air.
Is the requirement of 17x17x17 spherical or cubical? It would be kinda awsome if you could build a round libary with the IE (somehow that abbreviation scares me) in the center :) What do you mean with one side open to air, though?
Given the three dimensions it is reasonable to assume it's a cube. Each bookshelf must have at least one side (ignoring the top and bottom) open to the air i.e. not surrounded by blocks. You can however stack them with no penalty.
Edit: *Sigh* ninja'd again

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:48 pm
by Haidaes
Itamarcu wrote:
Haidaes wrote:What do you mean with one side open to air, though?
It means you can't just make a big block of bookcases. Every bookcase must have one side visible (and it must be a book-shelf side), like the original Stronghold library.
Doh, of course. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:26 pm
by Foxy Boxes
Set fire to a powered (both mechanically and redstone) Soulforged Steel block with water and lava running into it above a stoked habachi. Still nothing.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:35 pm
by Haidaes
Foxy Boxes wrote:Set fire to a powered (both mechanically and redstone) Soulforged Steel block with water and lava running into it above a stoked habachi. Still nothing.
Maybe you need to put light on it via a lens pointed at the top ;).

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:44 pm
by Heilkaiba
Foxy Boxes wrote:Set fire to a powered (both mechanically and redstone) Soulforged Steel block with water and lava running into it above a stoked habachi. Still nothing.
Try water above/below it

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:54 pm
by Twololcats
EDIT: nvm looks like you guys figured it out already
Has anyone tried putting paper in a hopper and then filter dragon orbs through it? Maybe even try filtering ground netherrack as well?
That could be how we make the scrolls

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:55 pm
by FlowerChild
Calcifire3691 wrote: I noticed that in NEI as well, they're all armour enchants

info obtained from NEI
I wasn't keen on the creative mode stuff, but THIS would definitely be cheating. Bye bye.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:55 pm
by The Phoenixian
Something I'm curious about but haven't been able to test: (Though by the very nature of it, it will take a while to test)

Back when Flowerchild first talked about adding a better enchanter, he mentioned that the enchantments would be found around the world in dungeons (and possibly other chests).

I'll leave a note if I find anything myself but: Has anyone found Arcane scrolls while out exploring so far?

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:57 pm
by Foxy Boxes
Soulforged Steel blocks scream and smoke when redstone wire is powered atop it.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:58 pm
by Sarudak
Foxy Boxes wrote:Soulforged Steel blocks scream and smoke when redstone wire is powered atop it.
That's from a previous release.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:06 pm
by Heilkaiba
RaustBlackDragon wrote:Know what's interesting? Of the scrolls people have reported so far, none of them are for tool enchantments.
Actually I think Endermen drop silk touch.

Re: [SPOILERS] 3.80 feature discovery thread

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:09 pm
by Urian
And if experiments reported on irc are correct, testificates drop Looting.