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sargunster wrote:I just released version 1.5 of the mod. The mod is no longer downloadable as seperate modules, but you can disable individual sections in the config file. I fixed the Nether so that it generates all the way to the true height limit of the world (255). The new 127 blocks of vertical space are now filled in with Netherrack and Glowstone. I flattened the bedrock at the bottom of both worlds and at the roof of the Nether. These new changes can be disabled in the config by setting "loadNether" to false. I also added CraftGuide support for the Juice Maker with some help form The Lone Wolfling.

This version has some major changes to the way the mod works, so I recommend backing up in case something goes wrong.

I have a quick question. With the update to Nether world gen, will that build on top of already generated chunks or will chunks that have already been loaded still have a bedrock cap at 127?

EDIT: Or... I could stop being a tool and just check after backing up a save. :)

EDIT 2: And I got this... everything else checks out

Ribky wrote:I have a quick question. With the update to Nether world gen, will that build on top of already generated chunks or will chunks that have already been loaded still have a bedrock cap at 127?

EDIT: Or... I could stop being a tool and just check after backing up a save. :)

Unfortunately, it only works in newly generated chunks.

It may be possible to delete the nether, let it generate again, and then MCEdit your buildings back in. I haven't tested that though, so backup first. :)

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Ribky wrote:I have a quick question. With the update to Nether world gen, will that build on top of already generated chunks or will chunks that have already been loaded still have a bedrock cap at 127?

EDIT: Or... I could stop being a tool and just check after backing up a save. :)

Unfortunately, it only works in newly generated chunks.

It may be possible to delete the nether, let it generate again, and then MCEdit your buildings back in. I haven't tested that though, so backup first. :)

Gotcha, glad I did back it up, I got the error log I edited in to my previous post... that's one I don't know how to fix.

Well Sargunster I love the idea of this mod! I can't wait for it to go official release! I think the concept is cool. would be nice to play with the new looks of teh stone bricks and sandstone.
Thank you for your work and effort into this. I look forward to playing it in the future! :)

Ribky wrote:Gotcha, glad I did back it up, I got the error log I edited in to my previous post... that's one I don't know how to fix.

Do you have any old versions of the mod installed? "mod_SVChisel" doesn't exist in the latest version (because it's no longer a separate mod), so it can't throw an error.

Prof_Ion wrote:Well Sargunster I love the idea of this mod! I can't wait for it to go official release! I think the concept is cool. would be nice to play with the new looks of teh stone bricks and sandstone.
Thank you for your work and effort into this. I look forward to playing it in the future! :)

Glad you like it! I'm not sure what you mean by "official release" though. :) Am I still calling it a WIP somewhere?

Well my dad does not want to instal this mod until it is out of the testing stages. He wants to wait for it to be finished completly.
so I can not play it until it is "officially released" wich I really dont know what he ment by that. except maybe that he wanted you to have finished the basic stuff of it.
none the less love the consept and pics you posted looks to be loads of fun.
I look forward to seeing the fruit on my trees!

sargunster wrote: Do you have any old versions of the mod installed? "mod_SVChisel" doesn't exist in the latest version (because it's no longer a separate mod), so it can't throw an error.

That was it man, thanks for the help! I still had 1.4 elements kicking around in there

I've found what looks like a small bug: when green and blue color sensors are broken with a pickaxe, they both drop a red sensor. I'm using v1.5, on a "fresh" install (using MultiMC.)

Apples don't show up in the creative inventory, and the only juice that shows up in creative is apple juice.
haven't been able to test out in survival, I have not gotten apple trees yet -.-'

Briali wrote:I've found what looks like a small bug: when green and blue color sensors are broken with a pickaxe, they both drop a red sensor. I'm using v1.5, on a "fresh" install (using MultiMC.)

Fixed. Can't believe I didn't notice that. :)

embirrim wrote:Apples don't show up in the creative inventory, and the only juice that shows up in creative is apple juice.
haven't been able to test out in survival, I have not gotten apple trees yet -.-'

Apples are a vanilla item, scroll up a bit. :)
Due to the way items are added to the creative inventory, items with sub-types (juice) don't show all their types. I'll see what I can do to fix it, but I'm not sure if it's fixable without modding base classes.

sargunster wrote: Apples are a vanilla item, scroll up a bit. :)
Due to the way items are added to the creative inventory, items with sub-types (juice) don't show all their types. I'll see what I can do to fix it, but I'm not sure if it's fixable without modding base classes.

D'oh! Do you get them from apple trees or just normal apple drops from vanilla trees? Maybe that's why I haven't found them with fertilizer -.-' Or I'm just being unlucky.
The juice isn't much of a problem, just a heads-up.

embirrim wrote:D'oh! Do you get them from apple trees or just normal apple drops from vanilla trees? Maybe that's why I haven't found them with fertilizer -.-' Or I'm just being unlucky.
The juice isn't much of a problem, just a heads-up.

Vanilla trees still drop them, but I added apple trees as well.

So in the world that I generated after installing your mod I have noticed that your trees are *quite* common. Even in biomes that don't usually have that many trees, specifically the extreme hills biome. I would like to suggest that you restrict where the trees can generate based on biome. Another thing that bugs me about it a little is that things like banana trees orange and grapes all generate in plain forest biomes even though most of them would be much more common in something like a jungle.

Anyways, it isn't a huge deal, just something that seemed a little off to me.

:edit: one last note. I don't mean that I think they shouldn't generate in other biomes at all, but it seemed to common, if you would like I could post some screenshots of what I mean.

Updated, now i support you too!

3 things:

1. Great mod! I have overused the chisel, and love the colour sensors and nether changes.
2. A bug. Placing a torch (and possibly other similar block) on a choppable block, and then slicing the block, leaves the torch suspended in mid air. With a block update, it pops off (maybe a block update after cutting blocks?).
3. Is there any chance that using a chisel/saw on a double slab could revert it to a single?

Thanks.

I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but in MC1.3, Emerald Ore shares the same item ID as Banana sapling, I think.

I have an animated emerald ore texture added named /anim/custom_terrain_171.png (which is what the artist of the ore said to name it).

I just thought I'd give you a heads up, I'm not sure if it's already been changed as I am using an old version :P

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Ignore all above, In the recent version it's fine, and my custom textures are working for it now :)


Also, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to have 4 juice makers next to each other, yet only have 1 type of fruit drop in each.. reliably :p (Oh, and I'm using HCB)

And FINALLY, a request. Sargunster, would it be possible to have the ability to place levers on a Juice Maker to disable the clicking sound when powered?
I have a juicing room and it gets quite loud (as I power it with BTW). I could always power one of the very low down gearboxes though, this would be easier and less confusing :)

Sorry for the late reply, I've been busy.

Gargantuan_Penguin wrote:So in the world that I generated after installing your mod I have noticed that your trees are *quite* common. Even in biomes that don't usually have that many trees, specifically the extreme hills biome. I would like to suggest that you restrict where the trees can generate based on biome. Another thing that bugs me about it a little is that things like banana trees orange and grapes all generate in plain forest biomes even though most of them would be much more common in something like a jungle.

I've modified their rarity a bit for the next version. They no longer spawn in extreme hills biomes, they are now much rarer in forest biomes, and much more common in jungle and ocean biomes. I may modify it some more until it feels right.

Panda wrote:Updated, now i support you too!

Thanks! They look really good! I've also fixed the animated juice so it looks right when using a texture pack. I'll add a link to your pack in my thread as you requested. :)

The great randomo wrote:

1. Great mod! I have overused the chisel, and love the colour sensors and nether changes.
2. A bug. Placing a torch (and possibly other similar block) on a choppable block, and then slicing the block, leaves the torch suspended in mid air. With a block update, it pops off (maybe a block update after cutting blocks?).
3. Is there any chance that using a chisel/saw on a double slab could revert it to a single?

1. Thanks!
2. Will fix in next version.
3. Added to todo list.

Pentagram wrote:Also, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to have 4 juice makers next to each other, yet only have 1 type of fruit drop in each.. reliably :p

I don't know if it's possible, but please post if you figure it out! :)

Pentagram wrote:And FINALLY, a request. Sargunster, would it be possible to have the ability to place levers on a Juice Maker to disable the clicking sound when powered?
I have a juicing room and it gets quite loud (as I power it with BTW). I could always power one of the very low down gearboxes though, this would be easier and less confusing :)

I could replace the clicking sound with some particles. I like having the feedback when it's powered, but the clicking sound does get quite annoying.

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Pentagram wrote:Also, I was wondering if anyone knows of a way to have 4 juice makers next to each other, yet only have 1 type of fruit drop in each.. reliably :p

I don't know if it's possible, but please post if you figure it out! :)

Pentagram wrote:And FINALLY, a request. Sargunster, would it be possible to have the ability to place levers on a Juice Maker to disable the clicking sound when powered?
I have a juicing room and it gets quite loud (as I power it with BTW). I could always power one of the very low down gearboxes though, this would be easier and less confusing :)

I could replace the clicking sound with some particles. I like having the feedback when it's powered, but the clicking sound does get quite annoying.

1. I've got them all powered, and for now I'm manually loading them. I'll have to have a think, and a play in creative, to see what can be done.
Maybe there could be a filtering system to only allow a certain fruit into a Juice Maker? (Yeah, shamelessly stealing ideas from BTW :P). Something similar perhaps.. I'll leave it up to you. I'm not creative enough haha.

2. Yeah, some particles would be nice. For now I have actually powered a gearbox (it was just a lever and 2 redstone dust away) to control them all.
I've found they either all click in sync now, or only a couple of them are being powered until I click them. I'll have to get more fruit and test it out!

By disabling the clicking sound, I did mean to unpower them (such as with redstone powered gearboxes), rather than to just mute the sound. I wasn't quite clear on that one!


Edit:
They aren't working all at once, only one is working at a time (the makers).
This is my setup. The only Juice Maker which is activated is the last one (Oranges).
as shown here: The others work, if I click on them..

Is this intentional or a bug? I'm not sure :P

Edit2: Now it just worked, with only apple and grape.
Previously it only had grape, banana, and orange.

I've fixed the buggy juice maker behavior in the latest version. I may put out a release soon with those fixes (but with the new stuff disabled).

What I've been working on over the last couple of weeks:

Oooh, looking good!

It's official, sargunster, now I love you. Seriously, love the boats

That looks awesome man! Can't wait to play around it with in soon-ish.

sargunster wrote:I've fixed the buggy juice maker behavior in the latest version. I may put out a release soon with those fixes (but with the new stuff disabled).

What I've been working on over the last couple of weeks:

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Connected boats:





Boats can carry stuff:

Man is that cool!
Can we put waterwheels on the boats?

Time to make a city swimming in the ocean in the middle of nowhere. Can we take animals in these boats with us?

These connected boats are awesome! How do you make the mast? How far are you going to go with this?