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Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:15 pm
by Enolamron
Great post, it had me spend hours trying to figure out the most compact way I could make my workshop. Not really the wiring but floor space. Some nice designs there but I thought I would post my final plan for my hibachi room. It uses more materials and goes in to the ground more but I didn't care about that.
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I took the screenshots at night. If they are tough to see, I will take others. This setup allows me to get my pot, crucible and kiln pretty darn close to each other. If you see any way I could make it a bit more compact without losing floor space, please let me know.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:24 am
by Rawny
I like the detector blck style. I actually cheered when I saw it it was so cool. Good idea. Once established detector blocks are plentiful but I'm a Scrooge when it comes to spending mah diamonds.

Idea, if you're not using hard core buckets use water flow, like from a vMC dispenser to trigger the detectors. Much cheaper.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:34 am
by Enolamron
Rawny wrote:I like the detector blck style. I actually cheered when I saw it it was so cool. Good idea. Once established detector blocks are plentiful but I'm a Scrooge when it comes to spending mah diamonds.

Idea, if you're not using hard core buckets use water flow, like from a vMC dispenser to trigger the detectors. Much cheaper.

I love working with redstone and trying to figure out how to bypass the the easy method. I do see how I could of used two or three less redstone. I think I could of just bumped up the switch one block higher and moved the first repeater. I will have to test that and see why I didn't do that in the first place.

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After checking about losing the two redstone, I found I can't. It needs to be like that to power the redstone under but I did figure out how to shave one more off the length.

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Once I get farther up the tech tree I might upgrade to the detector blocks, that is a very nice setup. Right now, I am still learning BTW and want to take my time getting to the end. People on the server are flying through things and trying to give me stuff but I want to learn the mod and enjoy it so I kindly have to turn them down. I haven't even set up my crucible yet because wanted to get my floor plan designed first.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:47 am
by Husbag3
I've posted this before in the useful builds thread but this is my design you might want to have a look at:
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EDIT: It's a 3 long tilable design, shouldn't be too hard to work it out but just one note, the emerald block need direct power rather than indirect power.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:22 pm
by Enolamron
Husbag3 wrote:I've posted this before in the useful builds thread but this is my design you might want to have a look at:
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EDIT: It's a 3 long tilable design, shouldn't be too hard to work it out but just one note, the emerald block need direct power rather than indirect power.
Nice design, I have no emerald yet. Looking at my design again after work I trimmed 3 more redstone torches off. It's getting a bit smaller each time I look at it. I love messing with this shit.

Third attempt to shrink this bugger.
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I think this is as small as I can get it but who knows.
9 repeaters
7 torches
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Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:37 pm
by Husbag3
The blocks used are irrelevant, I just used it to signify the input block.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:55 pm
by blithen
If you're going for a neat, but very resource consuming way, I use block detectors facing away from the bottom of the hibachi's, with redstone torches on them, and then use lens to trigger them. :P

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:59 pm
by Vellt480
Man this great I can know get building my workshop with minimum resources!!!

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:33 pm
by milkmandan
Vellt480 wrote:Man this great I can know get building my workshop with minimum resources!!!
Truly minimal is just to stick levers straight on the hibachi.
blithen wrote:If you're going for a neat, but very resource consuming way, I use block detectors facing away from the bottom of the hibachi's, with redstone torches on them, and then use lens to trigger them. :P
There's two other approaches with block detectors I like, either use water underneath to turn off or add lenses to make light level detectors and you can trigger a whole large section with a single light block. Was considering this to allow flooding/clearing a large flat area (source blocks around sticky pistons). Water as the trigger is annoying for larger areas as you have to do a step down to keep the flow moving which means a large delay.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:15 pm
by Ferrus.Manus
For something different, design with zero repeaters:
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The simple little trick that lets you avoid using repeaters on 3 sides
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The double inverters on the bottom to power hibachi in front of bellows and center one
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Same circuitry but on
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Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:19 am
by Iakovosian
Husbag3 wrote:I've posted this before in the useful builds thread but this is my design you might want to have a look at:
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EDIT: It's a 3 long tilable design, shouldn't be too hard to work it out but just one note, the emerald block need direct power rather than indirect power.
I actually use something remarkably similar to this, except that I arrange the lower torches slightly differently. You can apply power to anywhere along the two redstone lines on the side, allowing you to have up to 29 sets of 3 hibachis (87 total) should you feel the need.
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It also has a nice effect of lighting them up in sequence. :)

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:06 am
by Poppycocks
Ah, nice one Iakovosian, that's almost exactly how I do it :3.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:04 pm
by Husbag3
I like it, yours allows for more versatility when powering it, you only need to power the redstone. not the block.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:04 am
by gazelutza
and how do u make 4 x 4 hibachis?:> with Bellows ;)

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:12 am
by Husbag3
gazelutza wrote:and how do u make 4 x 4 hibachis?:> with Bellows ;)
I think you would need multiple bellows since the will only stoke a 3x3 area of hibachi. I'll give it a go and come back to you.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:48 pm
by Six
You could tile 4 of the 3x3 designs, then stick 25 crucibles / cauldrons above it. Actually, this sounds like an okay idea... did I see one of these in a Battosay build?

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:08 pm
by Itamarcu
Based on Samorost's great design:
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Bellows - Every bellows stokes a 3x3 area, which can only stoke one corner of the 4x4 square. The minimum amount of bellows you need is 4.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:25 pm
by Six
Itamarcu wrote:Based on Samorost's great design:
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Bellows - Every bellows stokes a 3x3 area, which can only stoke one corner of the 4x4 square. The minimum amount of bellows you need is 4.
Hence why you go totally overboard and push it out to 6x6, the max area you could get 4 bellows to cover ;)

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:27 pm
by Husbag3
A single tile for 4 hibachis:
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A single tile for 6 hibachis:
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The gold blocks are the inputs, the iron blocks are to show that with each alternate tile the repeater can be changed to redstone and the block of lapis is to show that the block and the redstone on it are only needed for one tile.

Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:02 pm
by Itamarcu
Six wrote: Hence why you go totally overboard and push it out to 6x6, the max area you could get 4 bellows to cover ;)
But why limit yourself to the number of bellows?
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Re: How to wire a 3x3 floor of Hibachis?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:07 am
by gazelutza
Itamarcu wrote:
Six wrote: Hence why you go totally overboard and push it out to 6x6, the max area you could get 4 bellows to cover ;)
But why limit yourself to the number of bellows?
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:D epic....but is to much....i try and make the 6x6 on the "It takes a Village" server after i post here.i just wanna see someone else ideas...thx