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Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:01 am**

Given that food is no problem to get, one more source for it will not break anything more than it already is. Making it a bit harder to produce would have been better though. But how hard is it to kill a cow and put it's meat into a furnace? I guess that giving <5% of the user base an item which eases their conscience and does not hurt anyone else is Mojang's way of "stay in the news".

Kind of offtopic so

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I do not want to start a discussion about this the following is intended to give some insight.

Regarding "bitching vegetarians":
Most vegetarians make that choice based on their conscience (at least those who make it past the first years) and getting there will make it harder to "kill" a single virtual cow than "killing" hundreds of virtual PCs because they did not make that choice based on a distaste but because they could not stand the animal's living conditions and deaths to have a taste for 10 seconds. To stay committed to that decision in a world where meat is widely available and it is easy to forget where the meat is coming from is sometimes a daily struggle which requires a bit fanaticism. And in few cases this unfortunately creates a lag of tolerance for temptation.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:25 am**

Some people call thereselves vegetarians in MCF only to have something to complain about, I am vegetarian since many years, and I 5 stacks of tanned leather in my chests.....

But to topic I am the only one thinking that the development of minecraft starvates this year ?
Got so a feeling now that the API is not going to happen in 1.4.
Don't know perhabs I am thinking to pessimistic

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:20 am**

in fact i believe that it was officialy stated by jeb on a tweeter that the API isn't coming for this "haloween themed" update. so yeah... though at this point i'm kinda more excited for the blocks ID expansion.... but i kinda feels that in's coming either with 1.4

so far i've liked the heads, the wither, the fences, corner stairs and the items display blocks, but seriously the pumpkin pie not being like a cake? how i'm supposed to start my bakery with plain pies hanging from the walls? D:

good to know that once the IDs are done FC will right the wrong, but still buggers me... i wonder of chocolate cake and apple pies are also on the list? : D

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:59 am**

Wither Update in the latest snapshot:
When the Wither is summoned, it has a damage shield as it's health regens to full. Then it does a huge explosion (several TNT worth) and becomes aggressive. It then will randomly shoot it's explosive missiles while it is looking for mobs or players to kill.

So ... this looks like it makes it impossible to "trap" for an easy kill unless you encase it in obsidian.

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Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:18 am**

kjbrona wrote:Wither Update in the latest snapshot:
When the Wither is summoned, it has a damage shield as it's health regens to full. Then it does a huge explosion (several TNT worth) and becomes aggressive. It then will randomly shoot it's explosive missiles while it is looking for mobs or players to kill.

So ... this looks like it makes it impossible to "trap" for an easy kill unless you encase it in obsidian.

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or SFS blocks, lets wait until 1.4 comes out and BTW for 1.4.
I think if FC want to make i farmable he makes it

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:21 am**

So the Wither mob will become a mob that will be used as an easy to obtain Tnt base destroying weapon in servers? Not so nice.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:00 am**

Elevatator wrote:So the Wither mob will become a mob that will be used as an easy to obtain Tnt base destroying weapon in servers? Not so nice.

Wither skeleton skulls are way, way harder to get than gunpowder. They only spawn in nether fortress, the skull have 2.5% drop rate and you need 3 of them.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:12 am**

Ok... that makes it a bit harder to obtain than I thought.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:15 am**

Actually that makes it an awesomely balanced weapon, in my opinion. If you want to work your butt off to collect the resources, then you basically have MineCraft's equivalent of a nuclear weapon to go mess someone's base up with.

So far I like everything that has been done with this new boss in 1.4. ...That's about all of 1.4 that has me excited, though...

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:50 am**

Now if they could just make the wither healed by nearby obsidian.

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:02 am**

IowaGuy wrote:Now if they could just make the wither healed by nearby obsidian.

Why?

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:03 am**

IowaGuy wrote:Now if they could just make the wither healed by nearby obsidian.

You sir, are a masochist :p

What does it say about me that I was more bothered by the changes to redstone buttons than I was by any of the new features? xD

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:10 pm**

Ferrus.Manus wrote:They only spawn in nether fortress, the skull have 2.5% drop rate and you need 3 of them.

I can't think of anything more arduous that skating up and down a nether fortress and click spamming on over 100 grey skeletons.

Anyway i watched the new etho video of him going at it with the Wither and it is a rather boring looking mechanic. The thing basically stays glued to you.

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:03 pm**

I hope that I've interpreted the wither skeleton spawning correctly and they spawn in chunks based on a generated fortress, as opposed to just spawning within a particular radius of one. Psudo-slimes can be dealt with, but having otherwise unidentifiable boundaries is just something that'll push players towards using tools to find out.

Posted: **Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:19 pm**

Stormweaver wrote:I hope that I've interpreted the wither skeleton spawning correctly and they spawn in chunks based on a generated fortress, as opposed to just spawning within a particular radius of one. Psudo-slimes can be dealt with, but having otherwise unidentifiable boundaries is just something that'll push players towards using tools to find out.

It's the kind of thing I can easily change to netherbrick if that's the case, as I agree with you.

Posted: **Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:01 pm**

So apparently the new mob dinnerbone has been planning is a witch. I wonder how it'll spawn. It'd be neat if they had little shacks in the middle of nowhere, but of course that'd make it a bit difficult to find them in worlds that have already been explored a lot.

"Nathan Adams
Finished some behaviour code for the a new ranged mob, now the hard part; texturing it :("

"How do you even draw a witch anyway? Pointy nose? In a blocky world it'd look like Pinocchio!"

"I decided to go for a less traditional witch look and have an "offshoot villager" kinda thing. It has a magical nose that wiggles, too."

Posted: **Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:09 pm**

Yep I saw that. While FC works on balancing villager trading, mojang makes wiggly noses.

Posted: **Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:29 pm**

SterlingRed wrote:Yep I saw that. While FC works on balancing villager trading, mojang makes wiggly noses.

LoL

I waiting for it to come out before I say somehting about it perhabs it gives new challenges, like the green walking phallus

Posted: **Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:12 pm**

It'd be interesting if they're anything like that Halloween mod that was on the front page last year. The witches gave random debuffs, although the only one I remember is one where your health randomly jumped around

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Edit: found the thread

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/751 ... -kodaichi/

The jumpkins were kinda neat too

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:19 am**

New snapshot. http://www.mojang.com/2012/09/minecraft ... ot-12w38a/
Not much to speak of except: "new neutral mob" What? Usually mojang leaks everything nowadays. Hadn't heard about that one.

Edit: noteworthy details!
New neutral mob is bats! They drop nothing and have 1 HP.
Witches throw harmful splash potions, harming, slow, poison, etc.
New sounds
Log orientation placement change. Log will orient based on the side of the block you click on to place it if I read that right.

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:22 am**

*ninja'd*

Reddit has more information though: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comme ... ed/c6avo4f

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:46 am**

It's a bat:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Bat

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:58 am**

I´m pretty sure I know what Fc will make with the bats.

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:41 am**

Elevatator wrote:I´m pretty sure I know what Fc will make with the bats.

Bite their heads of?

Posted: **Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:53 am**

Ferrus.Manus wrote:
Elevatator wrote:I´m pretty sure I know what Fc will make with the bats.
Bite their heads of?

Seems to me that bats are just a "neat" aesthetic feature. Not every new thing has a use, or should have one. We also don't know if they will stay. The last time Minecraft had a Halloween update, some of the content was temporary if I remember right. (I could be wrong, I started playing a month after that update)

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