Better Than Wolves Forum

Ceunon wrote:I think the deal is that they're wasting precious development time in useless features.

Sarudak wrote:Well man you've already started down a path with hardcore sheep and chickens... What's holding you back from killing bonemeal now?

Salmonella wrote:With literally every single feature this update added, I only care about how FC will alter it. I'm particularly excited for what he does with the animals in the Nether.

FlowerChild wrote:
Likely just disable them, blow them up, or otherwise eliminate them.

Sarudak wrote:You could go ax crazy on them.... :D

FlowerChild wrote:

Sarudak wrote:You could go ax crazy on them.... :D

The limping unichickens will live on!!!!!! :)

Actually, the above just reminded me to disable netherwart growth in the overworld. I think I had reconciled with it as an isolated "whatever" change, but now with this animal in the nether thing...no...I'm drawing a line in the soul sand.

There's lots of confusion about this, so here's a little bit of clarification: Mob exp hasn't changed, but xp mob farms have been nerfed.

I like the creativity of xp grinders, but I don't like that some feel like they're required to "play seriously" considering their easiness

TheAnarchitect wrote:What I want to know is why all the focus on adventure maps? It seems like everything that comes out these days is in some way supposed to make adventure maps cooler.

Notch wrote: Written Jul 07 2010
“But why”, some people ask, “are you making Minecraft programmable?”. The reason is, adventure mode!

The three main game modes when the game is finished will be:

* Creative mode. You can build anything for free, and there’s no health bar, and no inventory.
* Survival mode. There’s a health bar, an inventory, and you need to gather resources to be able to build.
* Adventure mode. There’s a health bar and an inventory, but you can’t destroy or place blocks, you can only use items.

(You can combine at least the two latter game modes for different players in multiplayer)

I foresee a future where people can design “challenge maps” in creative or survival mode, then share them with people so that they can try to beat them in Adventure mode. Being able to create interesting puzzles or trigger events requires some more advanced programming than the sand and water based stuff we’ve seen so far, yet still I don’t want to introduce real programming into the world.
I think the Redstone Dust (which is, and always has been[*] the official name for the red stuff) fits fairly well with the pseudo fantasy theme of Minecraft, and it will certainly have more uses in the future, mainly for alchemy and possibly other forms of magic.

Also, I’m a huge cellular automata nerd.

[*] I made it up last night.

SterlingRed wrote: Obviously that's what every good game designer would do when something is unbalanced, make some extra rules to discourage people using it! The designer certainly wouldn't balance the feature by adjusting the XP system itself, or encourage the creativity of the player by allowing them to do more with the XP. No, that would just be terrible. /sarcasm

Hello and stuffs.
The goal behind this change isn't to stop you from using xp grinders - I know that this cannot be done and I wouldn't even try even if it could. It's not to punish you for using them, or to force you to "have fun some other way". It's just to dissuade you from using them constantly verses other means. We don't want players to feel like they have to have a mob grinder if they want to play minecraft "seriously"; that may be how it was before 1.3, but it's changed a lot now and it's really easy to level up even without these.
XP grinders will still work, they just can't be abused so often for so much gain. The system in place currently is all completely arbitrary figures and this snapshot was just for testing if the mechanic worked at all; it isn't tuned in the slightest towards real numbers. I think currently it'd let you gain about 6 levels per 40 minutes per mob spawner. I've already adjusted them for the next snapshot to be 15 levels per 15 minutes per mob spawner, but even that's not going to be the final figure - it's all trial.