Lord of The Rings

LJEKadeshi · Post by **LJEKadeshi** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:50 pm

So I feel like a complete idiot for not noticing this before, but the eye of enders look like the Eye of Soron from Lord of the Rings just a different color. Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Also interesting texture pack idea, Lord of the Rings based?
Just wanted to get this off my mind.

Ulfengaard · Post by **Ulfengaard** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:04 pm

LJEKadeshi wrote:-snip-

*puts a toe in OT territory*

I haven't noticed anything like that, but...

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I would give some serious squee over a LotR texture pack... Serious squee, folks.

danielngtiger · Post by **danielngtiger** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:26 pm

I agree with the sentiment!

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:09 pm

I am disappoint. I thought there would be LOTR discussion here. My inner-Tolkein geek is sad.

Please have more descriptive thread titles, for my poor, kittenish heart.

(And yes a LOTR texture pack would be boss.)

LJEKadeshi · Post by **LJEKadeshi** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:19 pm

Sorry to disappoint Morv, perhaps we should begin discussing plans to have a picnic in Mordor with Flowerchild and Soron and... the tower of Soron looks like a flower (a very strange magical/ misshapen flower) and Flowerchild was born of a flower... Soron is Flowerchild's Dad? maybe... perhaps I'm just overlooking things.
Actually, No I'm (probably) just crazy.

Gargantuan_Penguin · Post by **Gargantuan_Penguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:35 pm

Sauron and Flowerchild are probably more like brothers. or half brothers... they do seem to be from different genres.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Just suggesting that Sauron had /any/ familial relations is just lore-breaking on so many levels...

StormBeforeDawn · Post by **StormBeforeDawn** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:44 pm

morvelaira wrote:Just suggesting that Sauron had /any/ familial relations is just lore-breaking on so many levels...

Was he a god or just some elder being? Its been ages since I read the Silmarillion and I cannot recal everyone's origin.

Gargantuan_Penguin · Post by **Gargantuan_Penguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:53 pm

StormBeforeDawn wrote:
morvelaira wrote:Just suggesting that Sauron had /any/ familial relations is just lore-breaking on so many levels...
Was he a god or just some elder being? Its been ages since I read the Silmarillion and I cannot recal everyone's origin.

As I recall he was of the same "race" as Gandalf. I think the closest comparison would be angels. And while Gandalf and the other Wizards were good, Sauron fell and became a "demon"

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:15 pm

To be more precise, Morgroth, Sauron's predecessor was one of the Valar - the god or angel-like beings of the Tolkein cosmology. Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron were all Maiar, or 'lesser spirits'. I've always sort of equated these to nature spirits of Native American or other tribal cultures - but that could be my Western prejudices showing.

LJEKadeshi · Post by **LJEKadeshi** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:19 pm

morvelaira wrote:To be more precise, Morgroth, Sauron's predecessor was one of the Valar - the god or angel-like beings of the Tolkein cosmology. Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron were all Maiar, or 'lesser spirits'. I've always sort of equated these to nature spirits of Native American or other tribal cultures - but that could be my Western prejudices showing.

So, with the started controversy I hope I have provided the discussion you so desired Morv. And just out of curiosity how much lore do you read about these sorts of things?

Gargantuan_Penguin · Post by **Gargantuan_Penguin** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:25 pm

LJEKadeshi wrote:
morvelaira wrote:To be more precise, Morgroth, Sauron's predecessor was one of the Valar - the god or angel-like beings of the Tolkein cosmology. Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron were all Maiar, or 'lesser spirits'. I've always sort of equated these to nature spirits of Native American or other tribal cultures - but that could be my Western prejudices showing.
So, with the started controversy I hope I have provided the discussion you so desired Morv. And just out of curiosity how much lore do you read about these sorts of things?

Most of the lore is found in the Silmarilion. I am sure there is more but that is the bible I use for my lotr lore.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:45 pm

I've actually not sat down and read the Simarilion myself - mainly because for as much as I love his stories, I can't quite get past the Professor's writing style. I've done a decent amount of research though with the help of friends, and educated myself in a more roundabout way.

TheHoboHunted · Post by **TheHoboHunted** » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:39 pm

Today I learned Gandalf was a Maiar...

This brings me much happy.

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:15 am

TheHoboHunted wrote:Today I learned Gandalf was a Maiar...

This brings me much happy.

Specifically, he was an Istari - a caste of the Maiar of which only the five Wizards were known to belong to. *pushes up nerd glasses*

Horizon · Post by **Horizon** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:18 am

You have earned 50 nerdpoints. These can be redeemed at participating stores, such as any comic shop, a fair amount of bookstores, and every arcade, for what it's worth($1 per 10 points).

Donzaffi · Post by **Donzaffi** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:05 am

morvelaira wrote:
(And yes a LOTR texture pack would be boss.)

I am thinking about a fair amount of time making a texture pack. Next month i get some free time and don't have to work, I can give it a try since it fits good in my plans in doing Minas Tirith in MC.

Elevatator · Post by **Elevatator** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:43 am

I know I always wanted to have a fell beast. Sadly, I never got one, not even for christmas.

Gargantuan_Penguin · Post by **Gargantuan_Penguin** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:50 am

morvelaira wrote:I've actually not sat down and read the Simarilion myself - mainly because for as much as I love his stories, I can't quite get past the Professor's writing style. I've done a decent amount of research though with the help of friends, and educated myself in a more roundabout way.

Yeah... it took me a few attempts before I could get through it, and even then it was always in nice, small, manageable chunks. If there was an Encyclopedia of Middle Earth I would buy it in a heart-beat.

Ulfengaard · Post by **Ulfengaard** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:08 pm

Gargantuan_Penguin wrote:If there was an Encyclopedia of Middle Earth I would buy it in a heart-beat.

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/

Wish fulfilled. Next.

M!C · Post by **M!C** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:10 pm

morvelaira wrote:
TheHoboHunted wrote:Today I learned Gandalf was a Maiar...

This brings me much happy.
Specifically, he was an Istari - a caste of the Maiar of which only the five Wizards were known to belong to. *pushes up nerd glasses*

Is it a bad sign that I know all of this too? ;)

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:37 pm

No, its not bad. Just means you and I need to talk more.

M!C · Post by **M!C** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:16 pm

morvelaira wrote:No, its not bad. Just means you and I need to talk more.

Easier said than done, I guess ...

Maybe university can change me (though I doubt it). I've finally decided where I want to go study and am currently looking for a flat or room to rent.

FurkeyRefills · Post by **FurkeyRefills** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:28 pm

Since all the LotR nerds have come out of hiding (YAY), I was wondering if I could have some help ?
Do you know of a course or guide out there that can teach you how to read and write basic Tengwar ? Just the english translated version, not the Elven or black speech version.

Each year for the summer holidays I set myself a few challenges to complete by the end, last year it was learn how start a fire using only natural materials and write a rough draft of a novel. Now I want to eat more healthily, exercise more and learn the english translated version of Tengwar :) Bit of back-story for you :)

morvelaira · Post by **morvelaira** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:12 pm

You mean the alphabet, then?
http://www.omniglot.com/writing/tengwar.htm

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