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Better Than Compatibility?

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http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/125 ... msearch__1

This... is... huh...

I can't find any forge files in the download, just a lot of base class edits. But that image of the anvil in the items list can't be a texture swap, though it might be photo-shopped...

Whaddya think? Real? Fake? And above all else, allowed?
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Is it allowed? If and only if he doesn't edit any of FCs code. But I don't see how that could be...
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Sarudak wrote:Is it allowed? If and only if he doesn't edit any of FCs code. But I don't see how that could be...
From what I can imagine, this would consist of taking FC's code unchanged, at least the base class edits, and adding it over the forge edits. That's not TECHNICALLY editing FC's code, but really, technically kinda loses a lot of meaning at that stage.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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No sorry. That's not allowed either. It cannot edit any of his code and it cannot be a redistribution of his code...
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Sarudak wrote:No sorry. That's not allowed either. It cannot edit any of his code and it cannot be a redistribution of his code...
I was pretty damn skeptical about it in the first place, just thought either way it should be brought to somebody's attention.
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The HavokSCOUT feels conflicted about this. On one hand, it means I could play IC, BC, TC, and BTW at the same time, but on the other, it looks EXTREMELY fishy.
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RaustBlackDragon wrote:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/125 ... msearch__1

This... is... huh...

I can't find any forge files in the download, just a lot of base class edits. But that image of the anvil in the items list can't be a texture swap, though it might be photo-shopped...

Whaddya think? Real? Fake? And above all else, allowed?

Real or fake, it's wrong. Definitely not something FC wants to allow with his work, I'm certain.

Though the point may become moot someday when the API comes out (someday, *snerk*), the dude is still a jerk for snippeting the code and redistributing. Major no-no.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Posted to his thread about it. He isn't doing anything wrong.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Ulfengaard wrote: Though the point may become moot someday when the API comes out (someday, *snerk*), the dude is still a jerk for snippeting the code and redistributing. Major no-no.
Eh, I'm not so keen on just dismissing the guy as a "jerk". Wrong or not, I seriously doubt that his primary motivation in releasing this was to spite FC.

I just don't like automatically thinking the worst of people.
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Oh, and BTW, outside of this thread anyone recommending this mod to anyone else, or discussing its use on these forums will have their post deleted, and be warned and/or banned.

I will absolutely not support this thing.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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*waffles*

Btw + Thaumcraft just seems like so much awesome... I don't know what to do...
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FlowerChild wrote:Oh, and BTW, outside of this thread anyone recommending this mod to anyone else, or discussing its use on these forums will have their post deleted, and be warned and/or banned.

I will absolutely not support this thing.
Thanks for the heads up. I don't plan on using it, but just to clarify, does this also involve mentioning a scenario which could only be true through use of this mod, such as describing a funny story involving a forge mod, etc?
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RaustBlackDragon wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I don't plan on using it, but just to clarify, does this also involve mentioning a scenario which could only be true through use of this mod, such as describing a funny story involving a forge mod, etc?
Yes. Any mention of using this mod.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Eww i cant believe someone would wanna mix BTW with some of those forge *cough redpow... cough* mods. :P
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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I don't think anyone here wants to mix btw with redpower... However something like thaumcraft or some of the many smaller forge mods has definite appeal.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Railcraft is what came to mind for me at first.... But on second thought I don't think I'll risk using it, considering what could happen in future releases that could possibly break worlds that were using this mod...
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Panda wrote:Eww i cant believe someone would wanna mix BTW with some of those forge *cough redpow... cough* mods. :P
My thoughts exactly, actually. As stated before, BTW is meant to be played as a stand-alone mod—mixing it in with one of the bigger forge mods just wouldn't make a lot of sense, and it would ruin some of the gameplay elements.

I mean, I could imagine someone using it in order to get compatibility with Mo' Creatures, or ThaumCraft, or a smaller forge mod, or whatever, but... Still. I don't support this.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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jorgebonafe wrote:Railcraft is what came to mind for me at first.... But on second thought I don't think I'll risk using it, considering what could happen in future releases that could possibly break worlds that were using this mod...
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Bans for discussing the ways in which to use this begin now.

I really don't give a shit if you bury it in a post talking about other stuff.

You've been warned.

Why is it people always decide to piss me off and distract me when I'm working on new content for their benefit? I just got raped here guys. I will not take kindly to doing a little happy dance about it.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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FlowerChild wrote:Bans for discussing the ways in which to use this begin now.

I really don't give a shit if you bury it in a post talking about other stuff.

You've been warned.

Why is it people always decide to piss me off and distract me when I'm working on new content for their benefit?
Does that include this thread? Because previously you said outside of this thread. Perhaps you should lock this thread if you don't want people talking about it at all anywhere...

EDIT: In fact if it is pissing you off that much I would request you lock this thread. :)
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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Sarudak wrote:Does that include this thread? Because previously you said outside of this thread. Perhaps you should lock this thread if you don't want people talking about it at all anywhere...
Talking about it is one thing. Getting excited about potential uses is quite another.
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I'm suggesting a lock as well.
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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FlowerChild wrote: Talking about it is one thing. Getting excited about potential uses is quite another.
Sorry man. Didn't know you felt that way. :(
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Either way, it doesn't matter anymore, the thread on the MCF was deleted. :)
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Re: Better Than Compatibility?

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I'm guessing FC found out there was some of his code in there. Probably merged on a line-by-line basis. I rather suspected as much and was surprised by the idea that there wouldn't be...
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