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Heightren wrote:Do you still take suggestions?
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I've watched a few of the WEI? videos, and they look great. I love the description on the autofarming one!
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Would you be able to make some kind of toggling device? The concept is that you press a button and the signal remains, like a T-flip flop, which also powers a lamp where the button is. What I couldn't manage is to make it that when you press a different button the previous ON signal turns off. I haven't got the world file where I tried this, since I'm not anywhere close to my gaming computer (I write this from a 1GB netbook), so I can't send you my progress on it. This could kind of seem more like a challenge than a suggestion.
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Heightren wrote:Would you be able to make some kind of toggling device? The concept is that you press a button and the signal remains, like a T-flip flop, which also powers a lamp where the button is. What I couldn't manage is to make it that when you press a different button the previous ON signal turns off. I haven't got the world file where I tried this, since I'm not anywhere close to my gaming computer (I write this from a 1GB netbook), so I can't send you my progress on it. This could kind of seem more like a challenge than a suggestion.
I'm a little confused as to what you are looking for here, if you could be a little more clear in your description I'd be glad to help.
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I'll try to be clearer:

1. Press Button 'm' placed on a lamp 'M'.
2. Button turns on Signal 'm' (not a pulse).
3. Signal 'm' also powers lamp 'M', indicating that signal 'm' is on.
4. Press button 'n'.
5. Button 'n' turns off signal 'm' while turning on Signal 'n'.
6. Signal 'n' turns on Lamp 'N'.

The idea is that should also be tileable.
Could be used for a multi-floor elevator.

If it this is still too abstract I'll send you the world file where I tried to work this on as soon as I can (1 week approx).
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Hmmmm, I sort of get it, I'm not planning on doing anymore minecraft tonight but if you give me a screenshot or a video or a download that might help
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Here is my approach:
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It's 1 wide and horizontally tileable; however, I can't get the turning off thing to work.
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This is possible on vanilla, though I've never tried tiling it. Look up RS NOR Latch in the redstone mechanism section of the minecraft wiki
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Yeah... but my concept was to try and compact it even more with BTW blocks
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Edit: Nope, still confused.

Gonna ask why this needs to be tileable and what exactly it has to do with a multifloor elevator.
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If it's a tileable RS-NOR you need I'd recommend this
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Well, I would use this device to select which floor i am going to.
The tilable part is just a self-challenge I set myself.
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Okay, scratch my suggestion, I think it's impossible. The main problem is that this type of T-flipflop with the BD relies in a constant ON state.
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Actually, I get what you are saying. All you have to do is have two different t-flipflops in opposite states with their inputs wired together so they trigger each other.

EDIT: This may not work, but I cannot test it now, so I can see if it will later.
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BlackCat wrote:
Heightren wrote:Do you still take suggestions?
I crave them.
Suggestions as to how to improve your existing designs, or requests for new designs? I'm afraid that for anything you've made so far I have no suggestions for improvement whatsoever as they are all rather spiffing. Thank you!

But if I may I'd like to make a request, as this has been challenging me a bit lately: how to make a clay ball recycling mechanism attachment to your fabulous auto pottery design? :)

I've built an ever-so-slightly modified version of your auto potter, and made an auto-kiln of my own clunky design next to it. The unfired pottery is shoved along by the auto potter in a line.

The problem is that I can't work out how to separate the queue of unfired pottery from the clay balls. Hoppers with ladders only break the pottery into item drops so that's no good. Maybe it's impossible and I'll have to consider dropping everything from the turntable into a stream and filtering that way.

This thread has helped me immensely. Thank you again.
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Maybe what you can do is shove the itemized drops to the side, then put them in a BD to be put in block form again? I don't know how well that would work for your design, though.
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Will see what I can do, I'm also going to work on tackling the logistics of a multi floor elevator, I've got a rough idea of how it should work so I might have it out in the next few days.
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I actually built one of these a while ago for a selection tool for pottery. The design is easy to find once you know what you're looking for, but for the life of me, I can't remember what it is called. Correct me if I'm wrong, you could have as many buttons as you wanted, but only one could be active--when you activate another button, it deactivates whichever one is currently on, and powers the new one. Is this the functionality you're looking for?

If it is...they are huge. But I never tried to minimize them with BTW blocks.
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If what Tom's describing is what you're looking for it's called a "Last Detector" or a "Selector."
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/892 ... #LDETECTOR
It's #21 on the list. This one is all vanilla redstone. I am curious if I could make it smaller using BTW tech. Almost always can. Well here goes the rest of the night.

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Just letting all of you know that I find melon pusher tree farms SO much more appealing than sand pusher farms ;) just a thought
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Hey Noir,
I know we talked briefly about this in the IRC yesterday, but I'm going to request help here too.
Basically what I want is a system that will leave a piston extended in front of a DB, but then retract it after the entity triggering it is gone. So, I don't want the detector derping around with the block in front of it. I was experimenting with lenses and such yesterday, but I've changed the design yet again, and so I would appreciate your input.
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Detector blocks aren't smart enough to differentiate between entities and blocks, you would have to either use an extended pulse or use a different detection method, unless I'm missing something those are your best bets.
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I must ask, what is the IRC?
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300th Post special

Have this 6x4x6 Self resetting sand pusher as a tribute to my first ever video :)

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And the new cart unloader design in a 6x6x6

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