Sharing useful builds that get the job done

embirrim · Post by **embirrim** » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:29 pm

Wow you guys are really coming up with some nice designs, these soul urners are pretty amazing.. I'd really just like to point something out though, and it's basically what led me to build the soul urner I built in my world.
Just so you guys have an idea, it takes 18 seconds to produce each urn, it does so safely and efficiently, meaning it will not waste ground netherrack, you don't have to stand next to it to get the product, and importantly it will stop itself if it runs out of urns.
Now, to have a ground netherrack production that keeps up with this I need 16 millstones running continuosly. 16. That's a humongous amount of space, and if you consider HCB, it's even bigger.
In terms of practicality, for your own worlds, it is sometimes not really necessary to go with the quickest solution. There is always a bottleneck, and in the soul urn process it is always the ground netherrack.
Even combined with soul dust it will take a huge farm. And the amount of netherrack mining you'll have to do is insane.

I really don't want to depreciate your builds, they are quite amazing, one of my first posts on the forum was actually a super-fast kiln. But I really think this is something people really overlook: netherrack grinding is slow, it's 10 seconds per item in the millstone.

Rawny · Post by **Rawny** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:43 am

I agree whole heartily wtith ebirrim and that's thy I Ike MY auto bottler so much. If gear is missing it stops and its. No more sutomaded urn? System waits. No more netherrack, system waits... Produces as much as I can when it can. How fast I haven't clculated yet but once I rebuild it in mah new mp server ill the nd get data.

Here the meat and potatoes vid I made on auto soul. I kinda dislike the video, not clear concise enough for me.

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The full thing starts here.

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And yes /lower head in shame/ I gotta push my wee one. It's cute if you haven't seen before.

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Time to fade, they're in the system

SterlingRed · Post by **SterlingRed** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:29 am

TheOneGuy wrote: Snip cool bottler

I always love to see new people create their own designs rather than copy an existing one. Very neat man! Also welcome :-)
Your post has unintentionally reminded me of a way to recycle my wheat farm seeds. I totally forgot about hc bouy and floaty stuff. Which of course is rather silly because I do play with it on. I'll have to do some experimenting with water based vertical elevators. Thanks!

milkmandan · Post by **milkmandan** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:24 pm

SterlingRed wrote:Your post has unintentionally reminded me of a way to recycle my wheat farm seeds. I totally forgot about hc bouy and floaty stuff. Which of course is rather silly because I do play with it on. I'll have to do some experimenting with water based vertical elevators. Thanks!

Has some heavy restrictions for placement since for seeds to float up you need source blocks all the way (falling water overpowers the buoyancy effect). Limits you to building in the ocean and only getting probably 20 or so blocks vertical rise.

On an unrelated note, I've been finding a way to simplify most of my redstone by using a timer + AND (or NOR). Here's one I used with wolf feeder.

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Above is a plain dispenser, from the left is a slow timer. When there's food still existing, the block gets continuous power and thus the output remains off. When no food, the timer signal runs triggering dispensing. Most of time, this will work without the timer, but occasionally the food doesn't make it to the pressure plate and thus no signal gets sent back up.

Not a lot of wolves, but the increased efficiency from feeding them as soon as they're hungry means they produce more dung than my quantum cow pit, of 60-100 cows, can produce leather. Quantum in that the cows have to make it through a wall in order to die. Seems to happen more often with a higher cow pressure.

I did something similar with a bottler, avoiding need for a monostable circuit and automatically handling restart after new urns are added. Detector block powers dispenser when urn is in place, otherwise timer pulses try to place a new urn until successful. Invert the detector signal and send it over to the millstone power so it stops when there's no urn. Mostly lossless and very little input, got a hopper feeding the millstone so just load it up with netherrack and walk away. Could make it totally lossless by having a dispenser spit out the ground netherrack next to the hopper instead of relying on the millstone to output to arrive at the hopper at roughly even rates.

TheOneGuy · Post by **TheOneGuy** » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:52 pm

SterlingRed wrote:
I always love to see new people create their own designs rather than copy an existing one. Very neat man! Also welcome :-)
Your post has unintentionally reminded me of a way to recycle my wheat farm seeds. I totally forgot about hc bouy and floaty stuff. Which of course is rather silly because I do play with it on. I'll have to do some experimenting with water based vertical elevators. Thanks!

Thanks m8, didnt think many would notice. But embirrim, you make a very good point, I totally didnt think of that... ill see if i can get a workaround with that, even with hardcore buckets, and if I get any solutions ill be sure to post a updated design, for now though I have to focus on my world for once, instead of trying to get designs that will only aid me in the future. Trying to stop playing BTW is impossible, so many possibilities. Heh.

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:09 pm

Made an egg cracker that allows for the use of looting axes, for those who don't want to waste the opportunity for more SFS armor ;)

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Basic rundown of how this works: Use the lever to switch the (extremely noisy) device on and off, the top piston will trigger the buddy acting as a self sustaining clock for the dispenser, the dispenser will shoot out eggs, and the bottom piston will continuously push any chickens/raw eggs ontop of the hopper (they would otherwise suffocate) and you can collect the raw eggs and leave the chickens for later slaughtering. Also the trapdoor will not let any chickens out when you open it, so you don't have to worry about chasing the little buggers down when you want to harvest them.

LiveInPain · Post by **LiveInPain** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:31 pm

I came up with this a while ago, dont know if someone has already thought of it but it can be really useful in some builds.

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It can also be used to farm melons and pumpkins.

Huli · Post by **Huli** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:57 pm

LiveInPain wrote:I came up with this a while ago, dont know if someone has already thought of it but it can be really useful in some builds.

Mh you inspired me to have a look at it and I came up with this:

tl;dr below.

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The top left one is a simplified version of yours. Sadly you can't place them besides each other as the redstone will form a line and no longer send power into the block beneath the piston. If you run a waterstream to carry the sugarcane along it wont even need a planter.

The top right one is something for tripple high sugarcane harvesting. The detector is a block higher. The bottomblock pushes first (ignore the delay on the repeater that was me playing arround) followed by the topblock to not have the top sugarcane land on the block....so i thought. The truth is bottom left.

The setup could easy work with only one detector and one repeater in a whole row to empty the row if one sugarcane did grow fully but because the pistons are not powered at the same time a lot of sugarcane lands on the block below. I however would prefer a version without repeater (to save redstone) aswell as torches (to save on particle lag).

tl;dr... top left is a simplified version of LiveInPains but can only be used with a 1 block gap to the next. Other pics are an idea that does not quite work without using a lot of redstone torches or repeaters.

Husbag3 · Post by **Husbag3** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:59 pm

This is a simple bio-clock connected to what would be a hemp farm (If I could get water in that world, the glowstone represents tiled soil).

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Side view:

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The BD contains 2 non-conductive blocks and one solid.

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:18 pm

http://imgur.com/a/jmmYi

Soul bottler dedicated to shifty <3

Edit: Going to work on fixing this, I have it compacted a bit more already, but it still does have a few issues

Six · Post by **Six** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:53 pm

BlackCat wrote:http://imgur.com/a/jmmYi

Soul bottler dedicated to shifty <3

(As I said in chat,) That's a nice design in theory and all, but pistons like that are really not consistent enough to push the used dust across. I imagine if you actually try loading that up with 'rack and urns, you'll be left with a bunch of dust on top of the soulsand hopper. I think it might be something to do with how stuff sits on the top of hoppers, and I'm not sure there is any way to solve it without water.

embirrim · Post by **embirrim** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:35 pm

After finishing this build on my server a few days ago, I went ahead and made a video. It is a fully fledged urn factory, complete with netherrack grinding. In the video I explain my reasoning behind the speed of the build, and as that was mentioned some time ago on this thread by me and some other people, I thought this would prove an interesting post :)

Hope you enjoy it!
http://youtu.be/-BBLWKPcqFE

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Panda · Post by **Panda** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:19 pm

I use cobwebs as a zero waste breeding mechanic. Think of it as the same idea as pistons extending to stop a block from falling and the retracting to let it drop, well cobwebs do the same kind of thing except they slowly stop itsms decent long enough for lets say an animal to eat wheat, making it a great option for vertical animal farms(putting a hopper at the bottom is a good idea) also the spider webs catch the baby animals slowing its decent.

And this is why spider webs are great!

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Elevatator · Post by **Elevatator** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:21 am

yup. Except the fact that we can´t get them legit into the game.

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:40 am

Finished the soul bottler (for the most part) it will always waste 1 dust per each round of urns made (each time you start it)

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And while working on some designs for bellows I came up with these

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Eriottosan · Post by **Eriottosan** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:56 am

BlackCat wrote:And while working on some designs for bellows I came up with these

Any chance of scaling down the images? I had to zoom out to see them :P

Heh I really love that (expensive) method of bellows powering!!

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:20 pm

Random block eater

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Block + RST in the bottom db

Probably not very useful, just sort of a weird design for it that I came up with today

More useful block eater

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redstone dust in top block dispenser

Similar to one of six's designs for the block eater

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Tiny wool farm :)

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SterlingRed · Post by **SterlingRed** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:37 am

I was not aware grass spread from grass planters. That's cool and useful!

tom_savage · Post by **tom_savage** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:23 am

What prevents the BD from placing wool and killing the sheep?

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:26 am

tom_savage wrote:What prevents the BD from placing wool and killing the sheep?

Funky interaction between nonsolids I'm pretty sure, but yeah they don't suffocate for whatever reason.

Edit: Changed up my earlier pottery design because it was wasting clay balls :\

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I explained how this works in an earlier post for anyone that hasn't already seen it.

Edit: Sorry for the double post, here is the concept for the sand pusher again

Still a W.I.P. But I was playing with sand pushers today and I came up with this concept/base design
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Post by **dawnraider** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:19 pm

tom_savage wrote:What prevents the BD from placing wool and killing the sheep?

It's due to the fact that sheep are slightly more than 1 block tall, so a block must be placed in the second one for them to suffocate, similar to how Steve doesn't suffocate if his feet are inside of a block. Nice design, though!

BlackCat · Post by **BlackCat** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:55 pm

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tom_savage wrote:What prevents the BD from placing wool and killing the sheep?
It's due to the fact that sheep are slightly more than 1 block tall, so a block must be placed in the second one for them to suffocate, similar to how Steve doesn't suffocate if his feet are inside of a block. Nice design, though!

I've actually found that the design doesn't work for another reason, being that the wool will stay in place and stop grass from growing. It was a fairly simple fix though, I'll edit in some pictures in a minute or two.

Edit: This should do the trick

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Rianaru · Post by **Rianaru** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:27 pm

Tried to find a design to do this, but couldn't, so I made my own, and it was pretty simple.

This takes a block(in block form) and moves it elsewhere, placing it in block form. So far, there's no way to move blocks around automatically short of turning them into items by hand first, or convert them with a mining charge, which doesn't work for all items. So here it is:

http://imgur.com/a/aBkli

Make sure all of the BDs are facing the same direction, and all the turntables including the one for redstone are set to the same speed, and that there are the same number of gearboxes from the power source to each gearbox. Finally, make sure that the redstone torches on the turntable are oriented relative to the direction of the BDs as shown in the picture.

Not sure what all the applications of this are, but I know it can be used to get rid of the collection limitations(because you can only fit 16 stacks of something in a BD) on wool farms and ice/snow farms, to harvest hardcore melon farms, and whatever anyone can think of. In general, this could be useful for moving blocks that need to be placed elsewhere without filling up separate machines, since there's no way to get items out of a BD automatically.

This build is infinitely extendable as long as you get the redstone timing right, and I assume someone else will make a version that goes diagonally too.

Post by **dawnraider** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:44 pm

Wow. That is amazing! I never would have thought of turning a chain of BDs to suck blocks in at one end and spit them out at the other. I always just placed it then used pistons to push it, and while this is definitely more expensive, it has a much wider range of uses. Nice job!

Rianaru · Post by **Rianaru** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:56 pm

Thanks :) I'm just not completely sure what they are yet xD
Although I guess you can use it as a way to connect a pottery machine to a kiln...Bah, other people can figure it out, I just had fun making it :)

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